2017/2018 Brony@Home vs Team AnandTech!
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RE: 2017/2018 Brony@Home vs Team AnandTech!
Looks like we've got more people, but their computers are better. I've barely turned my computer off in the last two weeks...
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RE: 2017/2018 Brony@Home vs Team AnandTech!
(2018-01-15, 02:12:06 AM)neirdae Wrote: Looks like we've got more people, but their computers are better. I've barely turned my computer off in the last two weeks...

I have 13 computers with 15 video cards, and they NEVER get turned off. Thats why I pump out 12.5 million ppd, and am number 29 in the world.
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RE: 2017/2018 Brony@Home vs Team AnandTech!
I think this is where bonus points are hurting us slightly. I suspect overall we have more computing power than anandtech... heh.
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RE: 2017/2018 Brony@Home vs Team AnandTech!
(2018-01-15, 04:20:53 AM)markfw Wrote:
(2018-01-15, 02:12:06 AM)neirdae Wrote: Looks like we've got more people, but their computers are better. I've barely turned my computer off in the last two weeks...

I have 13 computers with 15 video cards, and they NEVER get turned off. Thats why I pump out 12.5 million ppd, and am number 29 in the world.

Is there any particular reason why you are running nearly as many computers as video cards? I imagine if i ever got the means to run that many cards i would put like 3 or 4 into one.
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RE: 2017/2018 Brony@Home vs Team AnandTech!
We've been trying to get him to consolidate, but, well, he's an addict. :D

Actually multiple cards has proven problematic in many ways, for me, such as cooling, WinBlows updates (even when you tell it not to), Linux Mint 18.2/18.3 can flake out with a 2nd/3rd card, for some reason too.

But mostly, it's for all the CPU power. I can't think of a single Distributed Computing application that does NOT have a CPU app, where only a handful have GPU apps, such as Folding-at-home, Milkyway, Einstein, GPUGrid, Asteroids, SETI, several of the math projects like Collatz and PrimeGrid, DrugDiscovery, and Enigma. I know I have missed a few, but ONLY a few. The other 75% of the projects out there are CPU only.
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2018-01-15, 07:46:50 AM
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RE: 2017/2018 Brony@Home vs Team AnandTech!
(2018-01-14, 10:16:52 PM)10esseepony Wrote: A few more weeks to go! Well done to all, and now, (courtesy of Free-DC) I shall present you your weekly stats:

(If you are curious and want to compare, AnandTech's stats can be found here.)

Folding@Home overall position - 22
TeAm total for the week - 379,430,600
TeAm rank for weekly production - 9

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1_______78,408,648___Nekolepsy
2_______46,341,124___hiigaran
3_______22,738,229___Peach_Hack
4_______19,968,685___PoNyePiC
5_______15,792,246___BreakPoint
6_______10,764,137___davidfg4
7_______9,665,071____Lonoxmont
8_______9,600,409____RoBorg
9_______8,233,739____UltraTech_Command
10______8,037,469____KTOdius
11______7,475,899____Rainboom_Dash
Eh... I'd be at about 11mil a week if running my computer full power 24/7... instead I have it limited due to noise... still not bad, though :p

I keep meaning to turn it back to full power when away from the computer but... I either forget to or sleep in the same room as the computer

But, hey, at 45% power limit the coil whine is very quiet and fan speed is almost completely inaudible :p And it's really just 25-30% less performance for almost HALF the power usage... maybe 40-45% less... full power would be... well... I guess limiting to 70% is good because otherwise sometimes it crashes the WU along with my computer... around 80% would be full power... doing 70% is really just 3-4% less clock speed

Of course when I say less power I just mean it'll stay cooler for the same fan speed... currently have it set to 22% fan speed and even with a shitty thermal paste job (factory) on one of the video cards and the other one the thermal paste is okay but it sucks in the hot air of the other video card... anyway, top temp is like.. 70-75 degrees at 22% fan speed

I also run a room heater when it's really cold out (like under 40 degrees Fahrenheit (like 5 degrees Celsius) outside) since it's a really big room and just running my 2 video cards and the monitor and even if the big tv is on.... it's just not enough to keep the room a decent temp :p

Of course my power supply says it's only putting out about 300 watts total since I have my video card's power limited.... full power would be like almost 450 watts... still wouldn't be enough to keep the room not being cold, heh...
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RE: 2017/2018 Brony@Home vs Team AnandTech!
(2018-01-15, 07:46:50 AM)10esseepony Wrote: Actually multiple cards has proven problematic in many ways, for me, such as cooling, WinBlows updates (even when you tell it not to), Linux Mint 18.2/18.3 can flake out with a 2nd/3rd card, for some reason too.

But mostly, it's for all the CPU power. I can't think of a single Distributed Computing application that does NOT have a CPU app, where only a handful have GPU apps, such as Folding-at-home, Milkyway, Einstein, GPUGrid, Asteroids, SETI, several of the math projects like Collatz and PrimeGrid, DrugDiscovery, and Enigma. I know I have missed a few, but ONLY a few. The other 75% of the projects out there are CPU only.

Ah ok, i didn't think about running multiple projects as i quickly discarded it after trying it out after joining Folding here. Reason being simply: CPU gets too hot and fans get too loud.

EDIT: I also ran a second card for testing purposes a short while and heat certainly becomes a bigger issue as the first card ran 7-8°C hotter and second card joined in at those temperatures.
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RE: 2017/2018 Brony@Home vs Team AnandTech!
(2018-01-15, 08:38:54 AM)Rainboom_Dash Wrote: .......Eh... I'd be at about 11mil a week if running my computer full power 24/7........

Prove it! :D :P
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RE: 2017/2018 Brony@Home vs Team AnandTech!
(2018-01-15, 04:51:01 AM)FinalplayerRyu Wrote:
(2018-01-15, 04:20:53 AM)markfw Wrote: I have 13 computers with 15 video cards, and they NEVER get turned off. Thats why I pump out 12.5 million ppd, and am number 29 in the world.

Is there any particular reason why you are running nearly as many computers as video cards? I imagine if i ever got the means to run that many cards i would put like 3 or 4 into one.

When you have cards like mine thats hard. I don't want to put 1200-1500 watt psu's in every box. Dual 980TI's and a 28 core Xeon take 700 watts from the wall. 2 1080TI's and a Threadrripper take over 800. So I add cards as I can. I just hate to waste all the AX850's I have running. They can't take more than 2 1070's.

Plus I need all the CPU power (over 300 cores) and that alone takes some power.
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RE: 2017/2018 Brony@Home vs Team AnandTech!
(2018-01-15, 01:27:53 PM)10esseepony Wrote:
(2018-01-15, 08:38:54 AM)Rainboom_Dash Wrote: .......Eh... I'd be at about 11mil a week if running my computer full power 24/7........

Prove it! :D :P

lolz

This is the only computer I use (I guess I have a laptop too) but my desktop would be way too loud.... I'm really sensitive to noise >_>  In fact, I have the fans set to 22% and even at 25% it's like loud to me... it's really not that loud but pretty much ANY noise I consider 'loud'

I'm a fucking mess.. 

There's also drastically less coil whine with the video card power limited

Each 1080 gets about 750,000-800,000 at full speed... so 2 x 750,000 is 1.5 mil... 1.5 mil times 7 is... 10.5... round up to 11 and, there you go :p

So 10-11 mil a week, I guess....


I would prove it but... ugh... the noise...
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(2018-01-15, 04:28:22 PM)Rainboom_Dash Wrote:
(2018-01-15, 01:27:53 PM)10esseepony Wrote: Prove it! :D :P

lolz

This is the only computer I use (I guess I have a laptop too) but my desktop would be way too loud.... I'm really sensitive to noise >_>  In fact, I have the fans set to 22% and even at 25% it's like loud to me... it's really not that loud but pretty much ANY noise I consider 'loud'

I'm a fucking mess.. 

There's also drastically less coil whine with the video card power limited

Each 1080 gets about 750,000-800,000 at full speed... so 2 x 750,000 is 1.5 mil... 1.5 mil times 7 is... 10.5... round up to 11 and, there you go :p

So 10-11 mil a week, I guess....


I would prove it but... ugh... the noise...
earplugs? :P also larger fans make less noise, as does better quality/capacity psu. you could also look into a watercooling setup as that would cut down on the noise level considerably, assuming large fans on the radiator and a quiet recirculation pump.
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RE: 2017/2018 Brony@Home vs Team AnandTech!
(2018-01-15, 10:26:36 PM)Lonoxmont Wrote: earplugs? :P

You joke, but this is exactly what I do when I'm in my bedroom or when sleeping!
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Heh... one of the main reasons I started BOINCing and folding is because I was fed up with my old noisy computer, so when I upgraded I tried to pick parts around noise-to-power ratio, so that I could leave it on 24/7 while sleeping next to it, while doing things like ray-tracing overnight, or training nerual networks, or other computationally intensive tasks.

Another reason was to make sure the PC is quiet when I'm recording, in case I ever try recording video tutorials or let's plays or whatever. Removing fan noise during video editing doesn't sound like the best solution if it can be avoided :P (also helps during VoiP conferences, including virtual tabletop gaming)

Then I realized it's a waste of resources if the computer does nothing while I don't have anything for it to do... and since it's designed not to bother me even when running at full power 24/7, I might as well use it 24/7 to do distributed computing. So I looked into BOINC and now switched to folding for the competition.

Anyway, it seems like the trick is mostly to use a quiet PSU, a bunch of 140 mm fans with decent quality bearings, running at the right speed (I can tolerate 800 RPM, and I could go lower if I needed complete silence). A decent case helps. Larger is better, because you can put more fans, then turn their speed down, while getting the same airflow (e.g. 8 fans at 400 RPM is quieter than 4 fans at 800 RPM). Also, a large, heavy case reduces vibrations.
I suppose for more powerful rigs, watercooling might be needed, but that still means fans on the radiators, and there the same rules apply - using more, larger fans allows for lower RPM, which keeps the noise down.
I've never run into coil whine problems, but hey, my rig is probably draining below 300W with dual GTX 1050 Ti... so maybe that's the reason.
Anyway, I think a 300W completely silent rig working at full load 24/7 is still an accomplishment.

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(2017-12-13, 01:31:29 AM)Jupiter88 Wrote: Aahh..Not getting work assignments for CPU again. I noticed if CPU is Idle it lowers bonus points for GPU. My CPU wants some soft sweet folds. It thinks of you at night all alone with no folds..Waiting and drooling.

(2018-01-15, 10:26:36 PM)Lonoxmont Wrote:
(2018-01-15, 04:28:22 PM)Rainboom_Dash Wrote: lolz

This is the only computer I use (I guess I have a laptop too) but my desktop would be way too loud.... I'm really sensitive to noise >_>  In fact, I have the fans set to 22% and even at 25% it's like loud to me... it's really not that loud but pretty much ANY noise I consider 'loud'

I'm a fucking mess.. 

There's also drastically less coil whine with the video card power limited

Each 1080 gets about 750,000-800,000 at full speed... so 2 x 750,000 is 1.5 mil... 1.5 mil times 7 is... 10.5... round up to 11 and, there you go :p

So 10-11 mil a week, I guess....


I would prove it but... ugh... the noise...
earplugs? :P also larger fans make less noise, as does better quality/capacity psu. you could also look into a watercooling setup as that would cut down on the noise level considerably, assuming large fans on the radiator and a quiet recirculation pump.

Well.. it's already platinum rated and 860 watt... The problem is even at really low rpms (around 300) it still makes a pretty significant amount of noise... I put a box on top of the intake vent and that helps a little... It's not very loud but it is quite annoying

I guess I could water cool my gpus... But 22% fan speed isn't bad... I tried 20 or even 21% but sometimes one of the fans on my gpu would just stop.. like permanently until I turned the fan speed back up... Didn't really seem normal.... I know at really low fan speeds it does the fanless mode where it pulses.. but this was not that
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(2018-01-16, 01:47:43 AM)Xinef Wrote: I suppose for more powerful rigs, watercooling might be needed, but that still means fans on the radiators, and there the same rules apply - using more, larger fans allows for lower RPM, which keeps the noise down.

I've always wanted to look into the feasibility of using a car radiator as a giant watercooling component in a computer, just so I could stick a single, larger fan on it. Unfortunately, the fin density isn't particularly favourable, so it's not as amazing as it sounds. Still...perhaps there is a high fin density car rad out there.

Quick search shows a 64*40*5cm rad to be about 150 USD. Could technically use one without a reservoir, given that there's generally enough space to top up extra fluid in car rads. Of course, there's still the problem of getting the right adapters for piping and such, but damn would it make for a unique build!

Just don't ever use car rad fans for cooling. Those things are LOUD! And use well over 100 watts for smaller models.
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