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Going to make this thread for all those little issues we all seem to have while folding. Even though F@H shouldn't interfere with your work, there are a lot of exceptions, most of which actually come down to the GPU client being the problem.

First off, unless you have a powerful video card, most games will NOT be able to run at playable levels, unless you adjust the graphics. This is unavoidable. Just wanted to put that out there before you guys get too hopeful. Anyway...

First and foremost, if you are running Windows Vista or Windows 7, turn Aero on, or you are going to have severe performance issues just trying to move the mouse. This will force Windows to render your desktop environment using your GPU, which will always be faster than rendering it with the CPU.

Secondly, you may notice performance issues in Youtube, even though your SMP client should be at the lowest priority. Contrary to popular opinion (including mine, up until recently), this is actually caused by the GPU client, even if you have disabled hardware acceleration in your browser. In fact, anything Flash related will be an issue, not just Youtube. This is because Flash runs outside of your browser, and has its own settings, including one for hardware acceleration. To fix this, you need to go into your Flash settings. Of course, Adobe make it a bloody nightmare to do anything related to settings, requiring you to navigate to a dedicated page to set some of your settings, while others are in your control panel. Nope, the setting you are looking for is in a third place. Right click on a flash object and click settings. If you can't find an object that has this button, go here (some objects don't have the settings button...Another silly thing). A little box should come up. Click the first tab in the bottom row, and uncheck the hardware acceleration button. Save and close. That's it. Youtube, and anything Flash related will now be processed exclusively by your CPU.

I'll keep this thread here for anyone to post performance related issues and fixes, and I'll add fixes accordingly to this post, as they are posted.
A performance issue I tend to have, which seems to be an issue with Windows 8 as it doesn't happen with windows server 2008, is that if you have GPU folding, the PC tends to freeze for about 5-10 min if doing multi tasking. Only way I found to avoid this is to stop the GPU client on the primary GPU (for those running multiple cards like myself)
For better control of how much resources fah uses upgrade to the latest client, it has better control.
(2013-03-06, 07:35:44 AM)Luis_GT Wrote: [ -> ]A performance issue I tend to have, which seems to be an issue with Windows 8 as it doesn't happen with windows server 2008, is that if you have GPU folding, the PC tends to freeze for about 5-10 min if doing multi tasking. Only way I found to avoid this is to stop the GPU client on the primary GPU (for those running multiple cards like myself)

I haven't encountered this on my Windows 8 laptop running an i7-3517U and a Radeon HD 8730M.
(2013-03-07, 08:51:54 AM)Sellyme Wrote: [ -> ]
(2013-03-06, 07:35:44 AM)Luis_GT Wrote: [ -> ]A performance issue I tend to have, which seems to be an issue with Windows 8 as it doesn't happen with windows server 2008, is that if you have GPU folding, the PC tends to freeze for about 5-10 min if doing multi tasking. Only way I found to avoid this is to stop the GPU client on the primary GPU (for those running multiple cards like myself)

I haven't encountered this on my Windows 8 laptop running an i7-3517U and a Radeon HD 8730M.

Maybe it's with nvidia cards?

all I know is I never have problems as long as GPU0 is paused, happened when I had the 470 as GPU0 as well.
nvidia gpus folding under windows 8 and for me even windows 7 have a high rate of freezing up periodically when attempting to do ANYTHING.. to the point of registering as a driver not responding crash and recovery. Sometimes multiple times back to back.

Meanwhile on the AMD side provided you are using verison 12.6 or older drivers...... folding @ 100% gpu utilization doesn't appear to really effect anything at all. Still get UTTERLY garbage WU points meanwhile super old/low end nvidia gpus like the 9600 or 8800 are firing out more points per day than a 7970 ati gpu.
(2013-03-07, 09:06:24 AM)Judas Wrote: [ -> ]nvidia gpus folding under windows 8 and for me even windows 7 have a high rate of freezing up periodically when attempting to do ANYTHING.. to the point of registering as a driver not responding crash and recovery. Sometimes multiple times back to back.

Meanwhile on the AMD side provided you are using verison 12.6 or older drivers...... folding @ 100% gpu utilization doesn't appear to really effect anything at all. Still get UTTERLY garbage WU points meanwhile super old/low end nvidia gpus like the 9600 or 8800 are firing out more points per day than a 7970 ati gpu.

That's exactly my problem, except for me it only happens when I multitask and I don't get the driver error, it does freeze for like 2 to 3 minutes but any music I have running in the background continues without any issue.
oh yeah simply tasks like playing music is fine....

don't bother attempting to play a bluray movie or something very x264 intensive for playback... that generally doesn't end well and will mess up the GPU WU you are on at the time too.

Even trying to play solitare is a imo bad idea.


However on the ATI side... I've played all types of numerous games with only the WU TPF dropping but still progressing while i play and without any impact at all on the gameplay too. Some games don't take FULL power to run specially if you use vsync and limit frame rate to 60fps due to it's use. Leaves sometimes 50% of the gpu unused which F@H will soak up the remaining gpu power to process it's WU. Never had a failure and never had a problem.

Skyrim however doesn't leave much for F@H to use.. like 0-15% give or take under most conditions. So F@H gets hit harder there. Still it's progress non the less and results in completing the work unit sooner than to just stop the gpu WU altogether just to play a game or something.
For the GeForce GTX line, the way Nvidia sees it is that these cards are for gaming, if they work well for gaming and gaming alone then the driver and card is fine.
If you want to do multiple things on your GPU at the same time then Nvidia want you to get a tesla.
With the 5xx series Nvidia noticed that tesla sales were slowing down as what you used to need a tesla to do you could now do on a geforce, so they have decided to make the geforce a gaming card and keep the tesla for gpgpu and compute stuff.


On the other side the Radeon HD is AMD's main line and is meant for more then just gaming.
AMD's other series the FirePro is meant for OpenGL CAD work and is slower then the Radeon HD in nearly every other way.
(2013-03-08, 01:38:52 AM)Judas Wrote: [ -> ]Skyrim however doesn't leave much for F@H to use.. like 0-15% give or take under most conditions. So F@H gets hit harder there. Still it's progress non the less and results in completing the work unit sooner than to just stop the gpu WU altogether just to play a game or something.

I can vouch for this. I have to pause my GPU if I want to play Skyrim, otherwise, I run at 15-20 FPS. Well, I could adjust the graphics, but I like my games on their absolute max settings.

What GPU do you use, btw?
i've had everything from a 5770 up through to a 7970... currently i have just a 6950 though.... patiently waiting until i sell it to get a 7970 again or hopefully a HD8xxx model. Would prefer to hold off getting anything less than a 4 to 6GB video card though... Even with 3GB on the 7970 @ 7200x2560.... the VRAM drains to basically nothing EXTREMELY Fast.
I'm going to hold off on getting a new GPU (or even a new rig) until the 700 series comes out at least, if not the 800 series.

I WANT GRAPHITE/GRAPHENE CPUS GODDAMN IT!

I basically can't play games at all when GPU folding. It can cause LONG hangtimes when I try. Occasionally my computer goes through multi-minute long hangtimes, or periods where performance is just terrible in general (mouse is very stuttery, occasionally freezing for a while, etc). I generally have to close F@H to restore my computer, and then start F@H again.
Wouldn't it be great if F@H offered an option to pause the GPU when it detects a fullscreen application?
(2013-03-09, 03:53:07 AM)hiigaran Wrote: [ -> ]Wouldn't it be great if F@H offered an option to pause the GPU when it detects a fullscreen application?

they kinda did with the latest update... but it stops all GPU clients whenever the PC is in desktop Facehoof has to be at idle till the screen turns off for the GPU client to start
(2013-03-09, 03:53:07 AM)hiigaran Wrote: [ -> ]Wouldn't it be great if F@H offered an option to pause the GPU when it detects a fullscreen application?

Its meant to pause when a directX (don't know about opengl) program takes control of the display.
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